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I’m hoping someone somewhere can help me discover some history behind my house at Dibbles Bridge.

Please read on and feel free to email any thoughts or suggestions.

Mat

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Dibbles Bridge House

Sited on the B6265 Grassington to Pateley Bridge road

 at the western foot of Greenhow Hill in the North Yorkshire Dales National Park.

I’ve always thought the house was a little ‘odd’ ...

but time may yet prove that it is I that is ‘odd’ 

and the house is just a regular Dales Farmhouse !

 

It certainly looks like a regular Dales Farmhouse from the picture above.

Attached to the house is what has been called a stable, with over-store and hatch.

The stable (I believe) was built as a 'fill-in' between the house and barn/cart shed. 

 The barn is sunk into the hillside such that the bottom floor is below ground level on two sides.  

The walled up door in the picture below could suggest the building once having 3 floors

 as it is too high for the ground floor and too low for the top floor.

Looking at the door and window openings I feel that the barn predates the house (see image map floor plans later)

 

 

Still looks like a typical Dales Farmhouse... Until you see it from the North...

 

 

The lighter coloured area linking stable and barn is a recent extension.

The rear of the house is a whole story higher and the ground floor of the cart shed and stable are seven feet above ground level.

At first glance one could presume that this is solely due to the sloping nature of the land.  

But looking at other local buildings I am hard pressed to find a similar example.  

Even as recently as the 1800’s this area of the Dales would have been a rather wild and inhospitable place.  

Which begs the question: Why would anyone want to build such a structure on sloping ground ?

  The additional expense and labour involved does not lend itself to the needs of a farmer.  

Why did the builder not seek to make use of the additional level to the rear in justification of the extra labour involved ?

Any Thoughts ?

 

 The picture above shows approximate floor levels and illustrates the large 'void' to the right below the second lift of scaffolding.  

Along the wall at this level is a continuous line of engineered through stones.  These support the stone beams that in turn support the flags of the floor.  

The only area where this can be viewed is from the only currently open cellar in north east quadrant of the house.       

                

A massive pillar supports two beams to bridge the cellar space.

There are (unconfirmed) rumours of another larger cellar in the north west quadrant that was filled with builders rubble when the house was renovated.  

There is no obvious access to this void.  Curiously the same through stones are present at the entrance to the cellar although they currently serve no purpose.

Looks a bit industrial ?

 

The Bridge Context

Dibbles Bridge has been an important crossing point during the last two centuries, though evidence suggests many years ago the road took a more northerly route via Gate Up at Grimwith to make for an easier river crossing.  

I have always thought the house has had some association with the bridge.  

Two little windows offer views over the bridge...

 

almost as if they were positioned solely for such a purpose.

             

Although  the house would have been ideally situated for monitoring traffic, local historians (principally concerned with the villages of Hebden or Greenhow) eschew the possibility of the house having been a tollhouse at the time of the Grassington to Pateley Bridge Turnpike trust.

Never the less the house's location directly opposite what is deemed to be a Bridge Liability Marker is curious.

The following link gives details of such markers http://www.outofoblivion.org.uk/record.asp?id=207 

I remain perplexed by the use of a cross.  

Similar stones bear the initials of the West Riding whom are liable, which makes perfect sense.

But why a cross?  The following link hints at a connection... http://www.pitt.edu/~dash/type1191.html  Follow the link to Devil's Bridge

 I have discovered from the County Quarter Sessions that a contractor named John Gill rebuilt the Bridge in 1833 to the sum of £650.

I assume that £650 would have been a considerable sum.  Based on the figures in the Sunside Mines ledger for 1829, miners could earn up to £1 a month, so this would equate to 54 years of wages assuming work was always this good.

It may be just a coincidence but my house has a plaque on it reading J G 1833.

 

Which raises a few questions..

Could this be John Gill ?

What do you think ?

Would John Gill have been a specialist bridge building contractor or a local builder ?

Opinions vary on this.  

Some say that most building tasks around the area at that time were conduced by farmer/miner Jack of all trades type folk.  

I have found a family of Gills at nearby Greenhow of that time.

Others suggest that building a bridge such as Dibbles would have been conducted under the supervision of engineers with steam cranes and all manner of fancy Victorian gadgets !  

(Industrial Historians please discuss)

Why build a house about the same time ? 

A local surveyor recently noticed that the back of the house was rubble walled, consistent with farm buildings of the area, but the front was coursed.  

Buildings in the locality have long had a history of refurbishment./reuse as times change through the influences of farming, mining and improved transportation.

Is it possible that an existing building was improved in 1833 ? 

Perhaps with materials gleaned from the bridge building effort ?

Another oddity that may suggest refurbishment is the door of the cart shed.  From the exterior there are 2 large cantilevered lintels with a further above.  The interior however, reveals the arch below. 

     

 

A further oddity (and possibly a red herring) is the fact that the first floor and ceiling joists to the front (south) of the house slope downward toward the outside wall.  The slope is uniform throughout the length of the building and the degree of slope of the floor is the same as the ceiling.  There is no evidence on the west wall of the south wall sinking.  

Odd ?

Internally there are few strikingly peculiar features.

Fireplaces and other features can be viewed by clicking the appropriate area of the following floor plans.

 

One feature of note are the two recesses in the back rooms of the first floor (marked O2 & O3).  Exactly opposite each other they both feature a curious angled edge to one side face.

At first I wandered whether they might have held beams for a cantilever winch over the back of the house but the fact that only one side slopes made me think again.  Possibly they were once openings to allow light in from the centre window.  Frankly this makes little sense either considering that each room has it's own window.

 

The way the internal walls divide the house strikes me as strange, particularly in the roof void.  There is no ridge board as such to the roof.  The rafters are supported by the off centre mid wall.  These dividing walls are accessed by hatches, though there is no hatch from front to back as the diagram below shows.  Roofing in the barn is a more traditional A frame style.

 

Comments ?

 

Maps and Incredulous Flights of Fancy ! 

I have found that the 1852 OS map shows the property as Bridge House

A few locals have proffered tales that the property served as a halfway house between Hebden and Dry Gill but I'm stumped to place it any earlier than the date stones.

Thomas Jefferys' Map of 1750 shows Deeple Bridge (variations of Deep Pool, Deep Dell or Devil abound)

Curiously this map shows a building to the south of the road but nothing to the north.  

My first reaction was that the building to the south was demolished when the site was quarried for lime.

I have since toyed with the Jefferys' map and the current OS map in an image editing program.  By comparing the contours of the river and beck I found that the line of the road slightly different.  Obviously the accuracy of Jefferys' is questionable and fails to scale directly to the OS but...

                       

Is it possible that the bridge could have been in a different place and the house shown is Dibbles Bridge ?

The paddock to the back of the house has a built drain running top to bottom that continues down to the river.  To the south and perpendicular to this drain is a raised strip of land of rocks and boulders.  At the flood plain of the river this terminates in a built wall.  On the opposite side of the bank is a similar wall.  

Could this have been the sight of an earlier bridge or have I spent too long looking out of the window glass in hand ?

No way - you're bonkers !

Yes I remember this from a past life !

Documented History 

Address Problems

 

Until 2003 the farm at Dibbles Bridge comprised of a farmhouse and a croft, the farmhouse being called Dibbles Bridge House.  When the Croft (Formerly Bridge House c1852) was sold it took the current name of Dibbles Bridge House and the farm became known as Dibbles Bridge Farm.

Although the croft is now officially Dibbles Bridge House the post office appears unaware of the change as the postcode and parish remain that of the farm (Hartlington BD23 5EE) when the house is actually in Appletreewick CP .

 

Thoughts and Deeds

A search of the West Riding Registry of Deeds between 1830 and 1835 for the John Gill returned no entries.

The quarter sessions Bridge Books (QD3/5,6,10&11) contain references to Drubbles Bridge, Dubbles Bridge and Dribbles Bridge otherwise Devil's Bridge.

1911 Appletreewick Trades and Profs shows John Woodhouse, a farmer at Dib Bridge

Deeds

Deed 7 September 1950  Appletreewick (vol 134, page 1127, no.499)

Richard Wallace the Elder - the purchasers

Richard Wallace the Younger

 

Richard Stockdale - the vendors

Jeremiah Stockdale

 

Land at Dibbles Bridge Farm mentions the house, barn and croft.

Purchased for £4750. 67 acres 3 roods and 4 perches.

 

Deed 2 April 1921 Appletreewick vol.28, page 226, n. 82

Florence Robinson - the vendors

Florence Robinson

 

Richard Stockdale (farmers) - the purchasers

Jeremiah Stockdale  

 

Indenture made 15 March 1921 and referred to land as outlined in the deed of 1903 and all that land called Summersgill Croft. It also makes clear that Florence Robinson inherited the land from Thomas Middlebrook.

 

Deed 30 December 1903  vol. 56 page 805 no. 375

Coloured plan attached which shows land including house, barn and croft

Indenture dated 21 December 1903

The Skipton and District Permanent Benefit Building Society

John Bonny Dewhurst

George Robinson

Abraham Moses

Alfred Wood

Thomas Middlebrook - the purchaser

Firstly all that farm or tenement situate at Dibbles Bridge in the township of Appletreewick and Hartlington . . . and containing in the whole according to the ordnance survey 67 acres, 3 roods 4 perches and consisting of a farm house farm buildings and several closes of meadow and pasture as described in the [following] First Schedule:

House barn and croft 3 roods 24 perches

Dibble Bridge with barn 4a  3r  15p

High Bottoms  3a  1r  39p

Rough End 1a  2r  20p

Little Allotment 8a  1r  33p

Cow Pasture 6a  0r  37p

Middle Field 5a  2r  25p

High Field 4a  2r  13p

Allotment 31a  3r  38p

 

Trail Goes Cold

 

Dewhurst, Robinson and Moses all own a lot of land in Skipton and Appletreewick areas.

Searched indexes covering 1901-03 and 1885-1900 but no entries showing their purchase. There are however hundreds of entries for them all relating to this area.

 

Electoral Registers

Pre 1901 don't give full addresses

1901

Thomas Newbould (66), Eleanor (53), Thomas Anthony (16), Simon E (13) at Bridge House., Hartlington.

John Hudson (73), Annie (72), Doris (6 grand daughter), Willie Blades (15 servant) at Dibble Bridge, Hartlington.

Robert Hebefere (34), Ada A (34), Sydney (4), Ernest (0) at Dittle Bridge, Appletreewick.

The last entry is probably the property now known as Dibbles Bridge House.  A search for the name Hebefere returned nothing.  The name is absent from all popular genealogy sites.

Could be misspelled ?

 Thanks for taking a look.

Mail me any thoughts and I'll post any discoveries here